Just the IRS looking for their piece of the pie...

[Ruepart Hoaxley]

I think any talk of "rebellion" is asinine to begin with, but I really don't care when people talk about it.

The only thing I take issue with is people saying its their "right" or "duty" as Americans. Just because this is America doesn't make you any different from anyone else. All I want is clarification.

Agreed. And I'm afraid you won't find your clarification, because it doesn't exist. Waah.

On a side note, I approve of the reference to John Locke.

[Nick]

On a side note, I approve of the reference to John Locke.

I hoped someone would appreciate it

[tjramplebump]

People are always saying rebelling against the government is their right as Americans.

All I want is for someone to show me where that right exists.

Otherwise, its simply a right afforded to all people living under governments, which is a view expressed by John Locke

read the declaration of independence...

[Nick]

read the declaration of independence...

Listen pal, all you have to do is show me where it says you have the right to rebel against the US as an American citizen

[Buffalo Phil]

i dont think anyone really thinks through not only the ramifications of what a revolution would result in, but what would need to be involved to carry one out

this country will not see a forceful revolution until things are in MUCH worse shape than they are currently, and rightfully so.

Why would they want to think it out and spoil all their hopes and dreams??




By the Way, Nick is right.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

No where in that opening statement does it say America or American nor does it give only us the specific right. It clearly states that whenever ANY PEOPLE become unhappy with their government, they have the option to change it through voting or force.

Talk of Revolution is merely just that: Talk. We can banter about it, we can plan and make jokes and even construct shelters and homes to protect us in that time but it will not happen until we are in a complete state of disrepair, like Will said. Even during the Great Depression, we Americans stuck to our values, we stuck to our system, we stuck together and with FDR and the New Deal, along with the coming of World War II, we persevered. There was no revolution and no arms were brought against our Government En Masse. If we didn't do it then, we won't do it now.

[Nick]

By the Way, Nick is right.

Finally.

Thank you for posting that Phil, hopefully it clarifies my point to the e-Patriots

[Zullock Holmes]

Nick is right. god why do these go places while i'm at work.


EVERY person, not just americans, are entitled to their life, liberty, and the their ability to pursue happiness or their own "free will" as a religious person will put it.

Did i say Rebellion?? I said Revolution..... a massive uprising of the people.... I believe that our governement today is not as bad as that of Great Britain. Our entire system is not completely broken, the foundation set by our founding fathers is still present, but we need to rewrite the way our current government is operating inorder to make it work efficiently again.

And i believe to do that we need to see massive political and social revolution. (Revolution is really just a fancy word for change)

[Zullock Holmes]

Shay's Rebellion.....

It made congress realize the articles of the confederation were not working, they went back to the drawing board and came back with our constitution.

Revolution's need to be sparked somehow. I'll leave it there.

[Zullock Holmes]

Otherwise, its simply a right afforded to all people living under governments, which is a view expressed by John Locke

It can be argued that Thomas Paine was the reason for the view spreading throughout the colonies, but i'll give you this one, cause locke did speak of it, nearly 75 years before the revolution began.

[Nick]

It can be argued that Thomas Paine was the reason for the view spreading throughout the colonies, but i'll give you this one, cause locke did speak of it, nearly 75 years before the revolution began.

Locke was the one who originated the theory and then was copied by all the Americans

[Zullock Holmes]

thats pretty much exactly what i said.

[Ruepart Hoaxley]

Revolution's need to be sparked somehow.

[Nick]

My question to you e-Patriots is: do you reallywant a "revolution" or are you just saying it

[grundlepunch]

My question to you e-Patriots is: do you reallywant a "revolution" or are you just saying it

On what scale are we talking about?

Egypt got change without violence.

I guess it just depends on what the GOAL is. For anyone that wants a revolution, what would you like as an outcome?

[Buffalo Phil]

Wait, there wasn't any violence in Egypt?