Save some money on your cages people

[Danksters]

I call it poop pipe because I find it amusing, and in PVC form, schedule 40 is poop pipe.

I never said you couldn't use schedule 40 steel pipe for a cage. It simply requires more bracing and beef than a cage of comparable strength built out of DOM. Anyhow, the quality of the fabricator is just as important to the strength of the cage. Personally, I'd rather spend the extra 100 bucks in material and have the extra safety factor built in.

And if you do want to chat about metallurgy for real, let me know.

[HeavyMetal]

its all in how its built

i dont care what the fuck ya use... if you build it right it can last...
that being said....








main hoop cough cough....(i realize it has changed since, just busting your internet balls for thinking you are the almighty cage maker of SIS)

im not trying to come across as a champion cage maker, because im not..but i dont think it takes a genius to see my argument has some credence, which unfortunately says a lot about the comments/people in this thread

[Magilla]

thats just cause you fail as a fabricator matt

[HeavyMetal]

I call it poop pipe because I find it amusing, and in PVC form, schedule 40 is poop pipe.

I never said you couldn't use schedule 40 steel pipe for a cage. It simply requires more bracing and beef than a cage of comparable strength built out of DOM. Anyhow, the quality of the fabricator is just as important to the strength of the cage. Personally, I'd rather spend the extra 100 bucks in material and have the extra safety factor built in.

And if you do want to chat about metallurgy for real, let me know.

100 dollar difference?

[Danksters]

1.25 sch 40 a503 grade B which is 1.66 od and .140 wall is within 4k PSI to 1.75 .120 wall 1020 DOM in tensile strength. They are within 1k PSI in ultimate strength. The difference in weight is less than .6 lb/ft .

'Pipe' made to A500 grade B, for example, is basically HREW 1018 steel in a pipe size. Sold often as structural tubing, at steel mills. A53b is also similar, not quite a strong in tensile/yield. The rectanuglar hot rolled that I get from my particular steel yard is also A500b.

Proper cage design, and proper fabrication technique will allow you to have a strong, safe cage, whether made from DOM, HREW, or one of those types of 'Pipe', for the average wheeler. If you cage demands are above average, you budget should be, as well.

Ultimate strength is when the material will actually fail. Tensile strength is where the material will transition from elastic to plastic deformation. Tensile strength is a more important number as it will tell you when the cage will begin to buckle when subjected to impact forces.

[Even]

I personally want to know what the difference is in cost from a cage made out of sched 40 compared to DOM. I think that will play a big factor in the decision.

If I end up paying 75-100 bucks more for DOM, then who the fuck cares. You are building a cage, it's not going to be cheap.

If I'm paying over 500 more for a DOM cage, then yea I might have something to think about.

[justtorchit]

im not trying to come across as a champion cage maker, because im not..but i dont think it takes a genius to see my argument has some credence, which unfortunately says a lot about the comments/people in this thread

i know... but every time i see this effing thread you bring up a subject praising sched. 40 bla bla bla..... almost becomes misleading to the true point and strength of a cage, WHICH IS HOW IT IS CONSTRUCTED...

[Danksters]

100 dollar difference?

I'm saying you could make your main hoop and pillars out of DOM and the rest out of schedule 40 and that would be dope too. But the fitting and welding and bracing and such is just as critical as the material.

[wannabejeep]

I'm cutting out the pipe portion of my cage and building it entirely from feces.

[HeavyMetal]

i know... but every time i see this effing thread you bring up a subject praising sched. 40 bla bla bla..... almost becomes misleading to the true point and strength of a cage, WHICH IS HOW IT IS CONSTRUCTED...

what the hell is the point of this thread? to discuss sched 40 as a material in cage construction, of course its what we are discussing, and the whole concept of the argument is its how the cage is built, not the material

the majority of opinions are sched 40 no matter what is useless and is "poop pipe"...i thought it was obvious the point of this thread was to disprove that. what have YOU brought to the table in here? pot stirring?

[Magilla]

he was shoveling the shit since he had no sched 40 to transport it for him

[HeavyMetal]

he was shoveling the shit since he had no sched 40 to transport it for him

no amount of schedule 40 could possibly handle the magnitude of shit you shovel

andy disclaimer: unless built right!

[Magilla]

good thing i got an excavator but now that we are on the subject what did you want to build something out of earlier? hrew?

[Magilla]

Oh and dont worry im a licensed septic installer in the state of ct.

my credentials

[Even]

good thing i got an excavator

since when?

wut kind?