axle swap option

[003brian]

ive snapped dana 35 on 31" tires so i think that they are not worth putting any money into. Go with the 8.8 from an explorer with the 4.10s non lsd w/ 31 spline axles

c-clip elim kit 130 dollars
aussie 220
home made truss and bracketry probably around 110

460 dollars

so that stuff is almost the same price as the aussie for a 44a

x2^^^^^^^ you will eventually fuck your dana 35 an a 44a is just way to much money. 8.8 ftw

[lakailimited06]

gonna keep thinking about it, it seems WJs are a pain in the ass when it comes to axle swaps from what i read...usually having to ditch the ABS and finding a way for the speedo to work...

idk if i'd want a custom fabbed axle in my DD when i can put one in that came out of a WJ...im happy with just having one axle locked im more or less just looking for an axle that will handle 33's fine and get me home from rausch...seems like the 44a is the perfect candidate...

[003brian]

gonna keep thinking about it, it seems WJs are a pain in the ass when it comes to axle swaps from what i read...usually having to ditch the ABS and finding a way for the speedo to work...

idk if i'd want a custom fabbed axle in my DD when i can put one in that came out of a WJ...im happy with just having one axle locked im more or less just looking for an axle that will handle 33's fine and get me home from rausch...seems like the 44a is the perfect candidate...

yea i understand what you mean about the non custom shit, my ideas for cars an shit as DD's usually arnt to reasonable so i usually dont vote for that option. but, if your only gong to be running 33s an u dont seam like you beat on your jeep to bad any option would probaly be fine its just whatever your most comfortable doin. an making all the brackets an shit for an axle swap deff can turn into a pain an take longer than expected. just my .02

[Even]

seems like the 44a is the perfect candidate...

The 44a is a stout axle, if you spend a lot of money to build it correctly.

Trussing is a must because of how flexible the aluminum center is, and you are definetly going to want some sort of skid that wraps underneath to prevent chunking when dragging it over rocks. I've also heard that the carrier bearings like to wear out quickly. Something about how quickly the aluminum heats up and cools down, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

Aftermarket support is minimal, and the one locker that everyone looks for (Aussie), well...good luck getting one for a decent price. I've seen them go for $400 bucks used.

I would tend to agree with everyone above that the 8.8 is the most sensible option. It's one thing if you already had a 44a underneath it right now, but you don't.

[customcreationsllc]

I don't know much about the ABS on the WJ does it use a center ring on the carrier you might be able to get the sensor on the 8.8 to work, they have a sensor on the carrier.

[lakailimited06]

yea i understand what you mean about the non custom shit, my ideas for cars an shit as DD's usually arnt to reasonable so i usually dont vote for that option. but, if your only gong to be running 33s an u dont seam like you beat on your jeep to bad any option would probaly be fine its just whatever your most comfortable doin. an making all the brackets an shit for an axle swap deff can turn into a pain an take longer than expected. just my .02

exactly, all im really looking for is to be able to get back from wheeling with one less thing to worry about..

The 44a is a stout axle, if you spend a lot of money to build it correctly.

Trussing is a must because of how flexible the aluminum center is, and you are definetly going to want some sort of skid that wraps underneath to prevent chunking when dragging it over rocks. I've also heard that the carrier bearings like to wear out quickly. Something about how quickly the aluminum heats up and cools down, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

Aftermarket support is minimal, and the one locker that everyone looks for (Aussie), well...good luck getting one for a decent price. I've seen them go for $400 bucks used.

I would tend to agree with everyone above that the 8.8 is the most sensible option. It's one thing if you already had a 44a underneath it right now, but you don't.

i dont see where the large amount of money is going towards to build it? i found the axle itself for 75$ in southington CT which is a two hour drive both ways for me give or take which is better than spending 300-600 which is what theyre asking for over here...

gears and install is going to be the only real expense other than like you said finding an aussie for it...

if trussed/skid the 44a is said to be stronger than the iron 44 and some parts are compared to the strength of a dana 60

This is a tech post that I came up with based off of info I found on JF, mostly thanks to EMTimZJ
http://www.rockfrogs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=779

Comparision between Aluminum & Iron D44:
Pro's:
Bolt up.
Get to maintain ABS & speedometer pickup (both based off of tone rings)
Strong R&P

Cons:
Lowest gear ratio is 4.56
Only one locker (lunchbox locker to boot) availablee for it.
Weak axle tubes
Aluminum housing makes it prone to twisting and destroying the wheel bearings.

Ring gear on a D44a is thicker
Pinion gear on a D44a is similar to a D60
30 spline axle shafts

Specifics:
Dana 60
Ring Gear Diameter = 9.750"
Pinion shaft Diameter = 1.626"
Ring Gear Bolt Count = 12
Pinion Spline = 29
Cover Bolt Count = 10

Dana 44 a
Ring Gear Diameter = 8.5"
Pinion Shaft Diameter = 1.625"
Ring Gear Bolt Count = 10
Pinion Spline = 29
Cover Bolt Count = 10

Dana 44 Iron
Ring Gear Diameter=8.500"
Pinion shaft Diameter=1.376"
Ring Gear Bolt Count=10
Pinion Spline=26
Cover Bolt Count=10

there are now 4.88s for the 44a as well..

[lakailimited06]

I don't know much about the ABS on the WJ does it use a center ring on the carrier you might be able to get the sensor on the 8.8 to work, they have a sensor on the carrier.

WJ gets its ABS from the tone rings on the axle shafts and the speedo i believe from the rear tone rings...

[lakailimited06]

http://www.arlojeep.com/Misc-Pics/D4...Sd35_RandP.jpg

and heres a skid/truss id probably mimic
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9591/imgp0215li3.jpg