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    I see alot of people with long arms and when flexed out the coil can pretty much hang there..damn near fall out. I feel like the loose spring is taking all the spring weight off that tire and its losing traction...I notice with my short arms there is always a good amount of tension pressing down on the tire..Does this make any sense to anyone?
    98 Cherokee, D30/8.25 w/4.56s locked F/R -- 3 link front IRO springs rear with shackle relocation, one ton steering w/heims, hybrid cage under contruction, 33'' KM2's

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    Originally posted by netrachamp1853 View Post
    I see alot of people with long arms and when flexed out the coil can pretty much hang there..damn near fall out. I feel like the loose spring is taking all the spring weight off that tire and its losing traction...I notice with my short arms there is always a good amount of tension pressing down on the tire..Does this make any sense to anyone?
    having long arms doesnt denote losing spring compression...having long arms that are "improperly" limited does..short arms just happen to be limited by default. though this is a double edged sword in some cases IMO.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by netrachamp1853 View Post
      I see alot of people with long arms and when flexed out the coil can pretty much hang there..damn near fall out. I feel like the loose spring is taking all the spring weight off that tire and its losing traction...I notice with my short arms there is always a good amount of tension pressing down on the tire..Does this make any sense to anyone?
      how much "weight" do you think is on your tire when the spring is pushing down on a binding shortarm at full droop?

      alot less than a dropped coil with the weight of the axle/tire assembly.


      and flex is one of the last reasons to go to longarms
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      • #4
        longarms are a waste of money. get lockers and gears first. just sayin that money could be spent on better things b4 longarms.











        see what i did there.
        #becauseJoeNitro

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        • #5
          Yea but i got all of that stuff
          98 Cherokee, D30/8.25 w/4.56s locked F/R -- 3 link front IRO springs rear with shackle relocation, one ton steering w/heims, hybrid cage under contruction, 33'' KM2's

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ktmracer419 View Post
            how much "weight" do you think is on your tire when the spring is pushing down on a binding shortarm at full droop?

            alot less than a dropped coil with the weight of the axle/tire assembly.


            and flex is one of the last reasons to go to longarms

            Anyways the last time i went out wheeling i pushed the old girl to her limits where i was off on my right side so far my left front was just in the air..where as with a long arm it woulds dropped far enough to hit the ground..but I think Sam answered my question as to if i would have had enough weight on that tire anyways.
            98 Cherokee, D30/8.25 w/4.56s locked F/R -- 3 link front IRO springs rear with shackle relocation, one ton steering w/heims, hybrid cage under contruction, 33'' KM2's

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            • #7
              wut.... how is this a real question?

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              • #8
                The pic doesnt do the situation justice..(I flopped it on its side about 30 seconds later)..And you cant see it in the pic but my front tire is off the ground...I think if I had longarms the tires could have reached the ground and pulled me out of it.

                98 Cherokee, D30/8.25 w/4.56s locked F/R -- 3 link front IRO springs rear with shackle relocation, one ton steering w/heims, hybrid cage under contruction, 33'' KM2's

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                • #9
                  With my thought being..with a dangly coil..would it even have mattered if my tire was hitting the ground anyways.
                  98 Cherokee, D30/8.25 w/4.56s locked F/R -- 3 link front IRO springs rear with shackle relocation, one ton steering w/heims, hybrid cage under contruction, 33'' KM2's

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by netrachamp1853 View Post
                    Yea but i got all of that stuff
                    i know. it was a joke. making fun of myself infact haha

                    Originally posted by netrachamp1853 View Post
                    With my thought being..with a dangly coil..would it even have mattered if my tire was hitting the ground anyways.
                    i dont think there is much that would have gotten you outta that. even if the tire/axle was able to flex down that far to "touch the ground" as you say you went over due to your COG not the tire haveing no contact with the ground.
                    #becauseJoeNitro

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                    • #11
                      and if your gonna say that you tire hanging down an extra foot or so would have been enough to pull you down i dont think so. as you drive foward your right rear was digging deeper into the ditch which would have still flopped you. my point is longarms in my opinion in that situation would not have saved you or done signifigantly better to warrant there cost.
                      #becauseJoeNitro

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JoeNitro View Post
                        and if your gonna say that you tire hanging down an extra foot or so would have been enough to pull you down i dont think so. as you drive foward your right rear was digging deeper into the ditch which would have still flopped you. my point is longarms in my opinion in that situation would not have saved you or done signifigantly better to warrant there cost.
                        agree. this is a situation where long arms would probably not have benefited the situation.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by netrachamp1853 View Post
                          The pic doesnt do the situation justice..(I flopped it on its side about 30 seconds later)..And you cant see it in the pic but my front tire is off the ground...I think if I had longarms the tires could have reached the ground and pulled me out of it.

                          looks like less lift and/or less pro comp crabwalking would have benefitted you
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                          • #14
                            You flopped? Pics and call me next time your going wheeling.
                            -Caleb

                            Crawl Daddy Champion 2011

                            1999 XJ 4 inchs of lift or so, 35s and some other stuff.

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                            • #15
                              Lift isnt really an issue..4.5 inches ..prob at 4 with all the crap i carry..and despite said "curse" i love my procomp x-terrains.

                              And a pic of the flop
                              98 Cherokee, D30/8.25 w/4.56s locked F/R -- 3 link front IRO springs rear with shackle relocation, one ton steering w/heims, hybrid cage under contruction, 33'' KM2's

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