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    So i went to throw together some one ton steering on kristys jeep and ran into a little issue. I wanted to run the normal under the knuckle setup becasue it would be an easy swap.

    She ordered the y link kit from ruffstuff.
    I was un aware that they reamed the long y link tie rod end in house and they ream it so you have to run over the knuckle I have used this style tie rod end before and i was planning to ream it (backwards) myself. No where on the website does it say the tie rod end would be reamed out.

    so now im stuck either calling ruffstuff for a non reamed tie rod end, ORRRR suck it up and run OTK.

    Now to run over the knuckle it looks like i have to cut some fat off the 30 (swaybar links, maybe the coil perches?) Im not worried about cuttin shit.

    The track bar however is what im curious about. First off, it looks like the mount on the axle might hit the steering, and second how fucked up will the angle of the dangle be?

    i calculated the angles and lengths for OTK, UTK, and the trackbar.

    Track bar: 32.5" @ 12.88°
    OTK Draglink: 33.09" @ 8.25°
    UTK Draglink: 33.65" @ 13.31°

    So basicly if i went with OTK i would have to raise the trackbar 2.5" to be "perfect"....... is that 4° diffrence really going to make that big of a difference? anyone run OTK with stock trackbar mounting location?

    Its not like i cant make the bracket. i just dont feel like wasting time if im not going to notice it.
    Originally posted by Ktmracer419
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  • #2
    if you have a reamer you can just buy the TRE at the local auto parts store and ream it either direction.
    Most people that buy those kits don't have a reamer so want the TRE already reamed out.

    I would just put it on top if you can get it to fit you'll have better ground clearance. bump steer will be negligible either way.

    It's not just the angle it is also the length and the pivot points you want all the same too.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by customcreationsllc View Post
      if you have a reamer you can just buy the TRE at the local auto parts store and ream it either direction.
      Most people that buy those kits don't have a reamer so want the TRE already reamed out.

      I would just put it on top if you can better ground clearance. bump steer will be negligible either way.
      thats what i was hoping to hear. I read some peoples comments saying that not moving the trackbar is a horrrid idea.... but its only 4 degrees diffrence lol. And the length is better with the OTK draglink so i wasnt really worried about that to begin with. Pivot points are the same hieght on the frame side.

      yeh i know i could get it from the part store but im cheap these days and i was under the impression it would not have been reamed. their add is a little missleading as it says "The kit can be used with stock steering position on the knuckle or High Steer arms".... im not upset with it becasue its better to run OTK anyways. just think maybe they should put a note in there, becasue i would have gladly called them prior to shipping asking for a stock one....
      Last edited by justtorchit; 09-28-2012, 04:45 PM.
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      • #4
        The angles wont be anough of a difference to worry. Even with my WJ knuckles and the track bar in the stock location, it was fine.
        I would honestly call them and ask to replace the end for what you want. Its what you wanted to begin with, and didnt plan to do the extra work, so dont.
        They are really good about service and Im sure will take care of it no questions asked.
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        • #5
          $ degrees difference isn't all that bad. If you trim the swaybar mounts and (I think) trim the coil buckets a little it should be fine. You might need to adjust the steering stops on the knuckles a little bit but again I'm not 100% positive.

          Do you guys have a swaybar up front or no? Plan on running one in the future?
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          • #6
            I have a jks ota trackbar mount I'm looking to sell...
            dirty30

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            • #7
              The Jks bracket looks to raise the track at too much plus it makes it shorter which I'm not really looking for
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              • #8
                Originally posted by SwampAss View Post
                $ degrees difference isn't all that bad. If you trim the swaybar mounts and (I think) trim the coil buckets a little it should be fine. You might need to adjust the steering stops on the knuckles a little bit but again I'm not 100% positive.

                Do you guys have a swaybar up front or no? Plan on running one in the future?
                I didn't think bout the steering stops. I'll have to look into that. What would the reasoning be?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by justtorchit View Post
                  I didn't think bout the steering stops. I'll have to look into that. What would the reasoning be?
                  If the links only hit the coils buckets at right before full lock, you could adjust the stops a little and never know the difference. Or barely any. And no cutting the brackets. Pretty sure the sway bar brackets gotta move or get removed either way. Ran into both issues with mine.
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                  • #10
                    When I ran OTK on my D30, i ran a jks trac bar in the stock location, wih no issues. I had to cut my sway bars off, and trim my coil buckets, no issues...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by justtorchit View Post
                      I didn't think bout the steering stops. I'll have to look into that. What would the reasoning be?
                      In case the steering only bumped the buckets close to full stop. That way you could just adjust the stops without having to trim a whole lot. Just a thought though.


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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the info guys! I'm gonna give it another go tomorrow.
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                        • #13
                          Went with the over the knuckle setup. I really like the setup. I ended up cutting the coil buckets as far back as I could.
                          Also while I was under there I found that the jeep wanted to be three linked.
                          [
                          Plated that for now. Gonna look into the Clayton kit.

                          Decided to tig the steering


                          And the finished product
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