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  • ¿8.25 strength?

    i dont really have much knowagledge about them so im wondering if its worth it to put a 8.8 with 4.56's in the xj or should i just leave the 8.25 in
    im going to have 33's and be locked
    the 8.8s just sitting in my tent atm
    2000 xj 4.5 clayton longarms with wontons with a touch of
    97' zj
    2012 surbra imperza DD
    im a motivation machine like the hammer and sickle in communism

  • #2
    It depends how much money you want to put in the 8.8. You can spend a substantial amount and get a stout fuckin axle. Also, you'll need to move the spring perches. Or you can gear/lock your 29 spline and carry some spare shafts or get some nice shafts.
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    • #3
      an 8.25 like yours (29 spline) and 33s locked, id be confident in
      - Will


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      • #4
        Does the 8.8 already have the 4.56's? Either way Yes. The 29 spline 8.25 is comparable to a d44, and will work for 33's. But, if you already have the 8.8 then I would go that route, much stronger then d44. It was a hard decision when ordering a locker for my 8.25 because the 8.8 would have given my a stronger axle, disc brakes, and better gears if I found one with 4.10's. And it would still be able to handle even larger tires in the future.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cherokee-at-16 View Post
          8.8 then I would go that route, much stronger then d44.
          lets not get crazy.

          *cue endless debate thread*
          - Will


          Originally posted by fizzy
          or am asians pants not a read end lol.
          Originally posted by DizzDizz
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          • #6
            I'm confident in the 8.25 locked on 33's, but the 8.8 is even stronger and can be built decently for a decent price
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            • #7
              No d44 da mos mongo axhull ebeur....
              dirty30

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hydra View Post
                No d44 da mos mongo axhull ebeur....
                real words make reading that a whole lot nicer
                and easier
                2000 xj 4.5 clayton longarms with wontons with a touch of
                97' zj
                2012 surbra imperza DD
                im a motivation machine like the hammer and sickle in communism

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                • #9
                  Specs where it matters: (let the numbers speak for themselves)

                  Chyco 8.25:
                  8.25" Ring Gear
                  29 Spline Axle shafts
                  c-clip
                  regular u-joint yoke
                  drum brake
                  3" Axle tube

                  Ford 8.8: (97+ ford explorer)
                  8.8" ring gear
                  31 Spline axle shafts
                  c-clip
                  disc brakes
                  flange style yoke
                  3.25" axle tube

                  Dana 44:
                  8.75" ring gear
                  30 Spline axle shafts
                  semifloat (non c-clip)
                  drum brakes
                  u-joint style yoke
                  26 spline pinion

                  Basically, any way you cut it...... on paper, 8.8 is stronger than a d44 and a d44 is stronger than a 29 spl. 8.25.

                  That being said there are advantages and disadvantages to each. Having a c-clip blows cock balls, you basically need to remove the diff cover anytime you have to pull shafts, with a non c-clip axle you don't have to do this. Esp cause i couldn't keep a d44 seal to last more than a year and half. Felt like regular mantainence to me. And the flange is arguably terrible. It's a debate with videos and songs dedicated to its mystery, and endless forum debates.

                  I'd go with the 8.8 over the 8.25 though just because, disc brakes kick ass, there seems to be much more aftermarket for them than the 8.25, and overall it is a significantly stronger axle. But with only 33's, either axle would be fine.
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                  • #10
                    In my opinion if you have it sitting there why the hell not. That way when your buddy wants to sell you his 35's for uber cheap you will have no problem swapping them in and can feel 100% confident in your axle. Personally, however, I would wheel 35's, locked, on a 29 spline 8.25 but that's just me. Then again is your 8.25 perfect and the 8.8 needs a lot of help? if so I wouldn't just price it out and see what you think.
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                    • #11
                      ill probally wheel the 8.25 until it breaks then swap in the 8.8 bc it needs brakes and brackets
                      okay another question does any one wheel with a lsd in thr back instead of a locker?
                      2000 xj 4.5 clayton longarms with wontons with a touch of
                      97' zj
                      2012 surbra imperza DD
                      im a motivation machine like the hammer and sickle in communism

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by hoggie101 View Post
                        real words make reading that a whole lot nicer
                        and easier
                        Sarcasm must translate that well...
                        dirty30

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                        • #13
                          If you have the geared 8.8 sitting around you might as well.
                          -Caleb

                          Crawl Daddy Champion 2011

                          1999 XJ 4 inchs of lift or so, 35s and some other stuff.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hoggie101 View Post
                            ill probally wheel the 8.25 until it breaks then swap in the 8.8 bc it needs brakes and brackets
                            okay another question does any one wheel with a lsd in thr back instead of a locker?
                            I have a factory traclock in my Dana44 works good on the street , offroad meh.. it kinda sucks!

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                            • #15
                              Weight, tires, and how hard your beat on your rig determines the axle you need.

                              If your going cheap buy a mini spool for the 8.25 and regear that axle. The 8.25 is the quickest axle to regear (thread adjuster for the backlash) the tool is about $60 or just try and make one. you got a welder right?

                              You can get gears install kit and mini spool for short money. Just buy the standard gears and jap bearings. They should last a while.

                              D44 are harder to find but I like them better than the 8.8 I don't like C-clips because you need to grind the gear teeth down to install the cross pin. C-clip eliminators are expensive but they do have them. like $150 or something like that.

                              The 8.8 is definitely larger but I don't know how much stronger exactly I haven't seen a torque strength of that axle.

                              Then if you have a little more money just install a D60 in the rear. Just requires a little custom housing work. When shaved only hang down 1/2" lower than a D44.
                              Depending on how much effort you want to put in. use search I explained this before.



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