Short arm 3-link???

[SupermanIce-J]

I have read about a couple of people removing an upper link on trail rig with short arms... but have never heard of anyone doing it on a dd... I assume because of the forces on the stock upper axle mount...

I have an idea... I will have braced to fawk Control arm drop brackets and will be building my front axle. On most 3-links I see the axle mount looks something like this
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...ree-p-286.html.

So if I truss the 30 with the link bracket tied to it this will work amIright??? I will run a traditional Rodend/rodend upper control arm...

It seems to me that this would be no different than a mid-arm 3-link or long-arm.

Is my logic off???

[DrThunder]

As long as you run hard joints on the upper i dont see why this wont work.

[Trailer Ray]

Roger that. Try it out, worst that could happen is it wont work, then let the part out commence. in all reality, with some research and advice/ help from some knowledgeable people I'm sure you could figure out a way to make it work.

[SupermanIce-J]

Do I need hard joints on all the control arms??? upper and lower...


I remember reading that somewhere... but i have been seeing some people as of late using rubber joints on the lowers at the frame.

[SupermanIce-J]

Does any one know what degree the upper control arms mount... that ruffstuff mount is 10* but i can't find any info on the factory "degree" of the mount. (that sounds funny but i don't know how else to word it.)

[Zullock Holmes]

Do I need hard joints on all the control arms??? upper and lower...


I remember reading that somewhere... but i have been seeing some people as of late using rubber joints on the lowers at the frame.

They do that for ride quality mostly, the rubber absorbs alittle more than a heim or flex joint.

I agree with corey. The upper should be all hard joints though, cause any give or movement will allow the axle to roll up or down. That link is the single control of caster/pinion angle. You don't want it to be movin around. I think on the lowers though you'd be fine with one flex joint and one rubber bushing, esp cause its still your daily driver.

[justtorchit]

yeh dont run a poly or rubber on the upper.....

dont ask me how i kno

[SupermanIce-J]

Hey claytonia man,


What are the upper mounts angled at on the axle???

[Zullock Holmes]

hmmm for our 3 link?? cause its a different angle for the short arm mount than for that mount on the 3 link bridge. I don't know the short arm one off the top of my head. I'll let you know though.

[ninetysix-ex-jay]

hmmm for our 3 link?? cause its a different angle for the short arm mount than for that mount on the 3 link bridge. I don't know the short arm one off the top of my head. I'll let you know though.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wont that angle be different since the lift on the Clayton Jeep is upwards of 6"?

Last I talked to them they weren't sure if that would even work with 4.5" of lift

[Buffalo Phil]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wont that angle be different since the lift on the Clayton Jeep is upwards of 6"?

Last I talked to them they weren't sure if that would even work with 4.5" of lift

Yeah...that's what he said. It's a different angle. I know you're mad at Zullo for not selling you the axle, but for christ sake, read his post.

[ninetysix-ex-jay]

Yeah...that's what he said. It's a different angle. I know you're mad at Zullo for not selling you the axle, but for christ sake, read his post.

My bad. And I'm not mad at that big ol' teddy bear of a Zullo

[Buffalo Phil]

[ninetysix-ex-jay]

But I ain't

[Zullock Holmes]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wont that angle be different since the lift on the Clayton Jeep is upwards of 6"?

Last I talked to them they weren't sure if that would even work with 4.5" of lift

It won't work, there isn't enough clearance for it to work. at 6" of lift the arm is perfectly level.

To make it work on a 4.5 or lower, you'd need to shorten the upper arm itself and move it forward, unfortunately you'd be testing uncharted waters cause you'd have an upper probably close in size to the upper in sam's mid arm set up and lowers that would be super long. which if i'm right, would mean that when you flex the pinion would be dipping or rolling upward pretty substantially.

The angles for the brackets are more relative to the locations of the brackets rather than the lift height. meaning that in going between different lift heights the brackets themselves would need to be moved very little in an angular sense, its more of just extending the links. Now if you are going from 5" to 15" they are going to change, but anywhere 3-8 its really not that much movement, ~ 2-3 degrees on an axle bracket (assuming the frame bracket is in the same location), that would be compensated for by a flex joint without any worries.

I know you're not mad at me idk about that axle yet maru, we'll see come spring. In the mean time i am more than willing to build you a hp 44 for literally the cost of parts.