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yea the only problem is, idk how big they make those countersunk ones and if they make them in grade 8 as well.
I'm sure we could figure out a mounting plate that uses more than 4 of those and has studs for the winch though. Wouldn't be too complicated.No worries, I'm not actually back, I'm just reminiscing about the old days.
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Originally posted by JeepBabiiXJ View Postyea the only problem is, idk how big they make those countersunk ones and if they make them in grade 8 as well.
I'm sure we could figure out a mounting plate that uses more than 4 of those and has studs for the winch though. Wouldn't be too complicated.
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Make a subframe behind the face of the bumper so you can use the required hardware, make a cover plate that sits flush and countersink hardware into that so that the face of the bumper is smooth. you would need another inch of space to make something like that work, but it wouldnt be too hard to do.
This is also good, because when you counter sink you get rid of material, so im not sure how that effects strength."Watching you work on your Jeep is like watching a doctor operate on a cadaver...
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Originally posted by ninetysix-ex-jay View PostDouble nut it, put in lathe head out and taper?- Will
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Originally posted by HeavyMetal View Postthanks boss for 4x4 101 , but cherokees (and everything) have been mounting winches base-down also for millennia with no issues.
if i go base forward, crosby mentioned the possibility of flat face allen head bolts last night (wish i thought of that), i just need to find shit strong enough, which i havent looked for yet-Erik
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Originally posted by HitItWithSomeSpeed View PostMake a subframe behind the face of the bumper so you can use the required hardware, make a cover plate that sits flush and countersink hardware into that so that the face of the bumper is smooth. you would need another inch of space to make something like that work, but it wouldnt be too hard to do.
This is also good, because when you counter sink you get rid of material, so im not sure how that effects strength.
if there is a large shear stress (force applied perpendicularly to the body of the fastener) on the countersunk fasteners then yes they are weaker than using standard bolt.
As long as the majority of the forces these bolts will see are normal stresses (compression/tension) then they will be fine. In this case, the surface area actually increases when countersinking.
As long as you can find grade 8 stuff and you put the fairlead on the mounting plate itself so that the forces are applied properly when you use the winch, i see no issue with it.No worries, I'm not actually back, I'm just reminiscing about the old days.
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Originally posted by ninetysix-ex-jay View PostI'm sure Phil can taper, I dont remember if his shop had the attachment or not
Also, if you're worried about strength, the nuts on the bottom of my bumper holding the winch down are welded to the bumper. Could also do a few spots for extra reinforcement.Last edited by Buffalo Phil; 10-26-2011, 07:11 PM.sigpic
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