Online Course Recap...How to waste my time some more...

[Quartney]

Every school is different with online classes. At Stockton, it was great, you did have to meet on the first day and last day of class but other than that the professors were great. Would give us their peraonal contact information and were totally willing to help.

At CCC...it SUCKED. I would email professors saying they marked me wrong on tests and give them the pages where the answers were and they would never email me back or say ok ill check it and then that was it.

Give one a shot. You wont know if YOU like it or not until YOU go do it. We can only tell you what it was like at our schools with our majors.

[Zullock Holmes]

I used to think this, but now that I went through it I disagree. College teaches you great life skills like time management, how to live on your own, and budgeting, just to name a few. I agree that you can learn an incredible amount from experience (and I have) but there are a lot of things that I learned in college that I may never have if I didnt go. It has also made me understand what I want to do, how to get there, and how to look better than that other guy who applied for the job. Just getting a degree means more to an employer than that you just got decent enough grades to pass. It means that you also posses life skills, self determination, and motivation.

wanna talk time management?? I worked 40+ work hours a week, all while fulltime at school with 12 credits and the homework and such to go along with those classes. I can honestly say i have learned more about hardwork, paying bills, supporting myself, while trying to balance the madness.

I can honestly say i've learned more in the past 2 weeks at clayton, then i've learned in 2 full years of college classes. maybe its just community colleges that i find completely worthless, I can barely understand my foreign instructors, the people in the classes do not belong in a college period, and the fact that most of them even graduated high school is amaziing. how am i to learn when every test i've taken is open book??

I will say though phil, go to NCC take john shields film classes, they are the only real class i have ever taken, with probably the best professor i've ever had. I know its not your subject but just take American Independent Film, only class i ever loved.

[Nick]

I think taking the class would be a good idea, and I think you'll end up being surprised at the type of people who will take it with you, I'm sure some of them won't be bongo playing Rastafarians.

[Quartney]

wanna talk time management?? I worked 40+ work hours a week, all while fulltime at school with 12 credits and the homework and such to go along with those classes. I can honestly say i have learned more about hardwork, paying bills, supporting myself, while trying to balance the madness.

I can honestly say i've learned more in the past 2 weeks at clayton, then i've learned in 2 full years of college classes. maybe its just community colleges that i find completely worthless, I can barely understand my foreign instructors, the people in the classes do not belong in a college period, and the fact that most of them even graduated high school is amaziing. how am i to learn when every test i've taken is open book??

I will say though phil, go to NCC take john shields film classes, they are the only real class i have ever taken, with probably the best professor i've ever had. I know its not your subject but just take American Independent Film, only class i ever loved.

everyones different and every experience hits different. i did 3 years of community college and 3 years of state college.

i personally needed to live away from home to grow a lot. I grew so much in my time at stockton and went nowhere when i was home at community college.

profs at ccc vs rsc? stockton hands down. just my personal experience.

also of course you learned more at clayton than in school. seriously? haha youre always gonna learn more hands on than you are staring at a book or a powerpoint.

[Pedro]

everyones different and every experience hits different. i did 3 years of community college and 3 years of state college.

i personally needed to live away from home to grow a lot. I grew so much in my time at stockton and went nowhere when i was home at community college.

profs at ccc vs rsc? stockton hands down. just my personal experience.

also of course you learned more at clayton than in school. seriously? haha youre always gonna learn more hands on than you are staring at a book or a powerpoint.

yup, pretty much how I feel. I never took a class at community college, but I feel that if I lived at home for college then it would just feel like high school all over again.

[Buffalo Phil]

I gave this subject much thought today and I've decided to take Zullo's advice here and not go back to school and subject myself to the real world this time around. He is right, you will absolutely learn more about anything in a real life situation than you would in a controlled environment. Controlled environments are good for getting a food in the door but in order to open that door yourself, you need to be bombarded with the hardships of a non-sterile environment.

I dread the thought of even thinking about doing homework again and dealing with a teacher and sadly, the drugged up rastafarians playing the bongos seems more appealing because at least I didn't pay money to be with those people and can walk out at any time.

Creative writing to me should be creating and have no boundaries or limits set by others, and maybe that is what I was looking for in the end; guidelines to tame a wild habit of mine.

Maybe I'll revisit these thoughts, until then, I shall continue to write what I please.

[BOX]

i personally needed to live away from home to grow a lot. I grew so much in my time at stockton and went nowhere when i was home at community college.

Same with my 5 years at school

vs

my 4 years at home after school

[BOX]

wanna talk time management?? I worked 40+ work hours a week, all while fulltime at school with 12 credits and the homework and such to go along with those classes. I can honestly say i have learned more about hardwork, paying bills, supporting myself, while trying to balance the madness.

Coworker of mine... Married w/ mortgage on a house in Norwalk. Works 830-5 in Stamford M-F. Fulltime student taking 12 credits at Southern. Part time job on Saturday and somehow manages to workout 3-4 days a week. He is 25 years old. Madness. End of this summer will be 2 years on this schedule.

[HeavyMetal]

FWIW...my degree program and school (thats right, either school, 4 year or CC) didnt teahc me anything I use to do business with my own business now. whether that be the actual design process, method, or otherwise.

real world hands on stuff has been my bread and butter from start to finish

id say a lot of that depends on what your actual focus/expertise is going to be in though.

[Hydra]

I am an English major.

I can certainly say that what Zullo is saying, in terms of perfecting your craft and abilities in the areas of anything artistic, is bull.

Even if i had pursued this no through college, there is no way i would have been able to learn about and study some authors that just arent discussed. Have you ever heard of William Dean Howelss? neither had i, but it turns out he was one of the most influential literature critics in terms if bringing about the realist, naturalist and modernist movements on contemporary literature.

You want to write? you need to be able to discuss, argue, and criticize/be criticized by someone who KNOWS their field. More importantly they need to be semi-unbiased in there knowledge, at least to the point where they could analyze Poe's work in a positive light despite the fact they hate Poe to death.

This said, you can be a writer and be successful without training. But if youre sole hopes are to better your own understanding of writing, and the history and themes behind it, go to school.


PS, if you like to read, or write poetry, homework should not be an issue

[HeavyMetal]

I am an English major.

I can certainly say that what Zullo is saying, in terms of perfecting your craft and abilities in the areas of anything artistic, is bull.

I'll disagree there fully

[Hydra]

I'll disagree there fully

well stop

[Krazors001]

Coworker of mine... Married w/ mortgage on a house in Norwalk. Works 830-5 in Stamford M-F. Fulltime student taking 12 credits at Southern. Part time job on Saturday and somehow manages to workout 3-4 days a week. He is 25 years old. Madness. End of this summer will be 2 years on this schedule.

Pish...12 credits. I have worked 40+ hours and taken a between 15-18 credits per semester for the last 4 years until my graduation last week One semester (Will may remember) I was in 4 classes in one day and lived at NCC from 10am -9:30pm

My fiancee has been doing pretty similar (3 part-time jobs) all while graduating with her master's with a 3.9 GPA, from the honors college, a member of the greek honors, golden key society and winning student of the year + planned our wedding. I think I'm going to take some time off before going into the MBA program.

[BOX]

The 2 or 3 online classes that I took in college were very... forgettable. Do not remember learning very much in them & only took online classes during the summer. Remember it being impossible to concentrate and get the work done. Being in class FTW.

I have a friend getting an online Degree from Univ of Michigan... no idea how the f he is able to do it.

[Hydra]

also will, you're art, which is technology based, does not have the temporal presence that something like poetry has, just another thought to consider.

some one wouldnt ask you to do a movie in black and white with a camera from the 1930's, but someone COULD ask me to write in the Victorian prose, in which case i would have to know