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    http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com...055464-100.stm

    Legislators push PA immigration control bill
    Tuesday, May 04, 2010
    By Tom Barnes, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    HARRISBURG -- State Reps. Daryl Metcalfe and Harry Readshaw think Pennsylvania should follow Arizona's lead and "protect its borders and citizens" by giving local and state police more power to arrest, detain and eventually deport foreigners who have entered the state illegally and don't have proper registration papers.

    Mr. Metcalfe, R-Cranberry, Mr. Readshaw, D-Carrick, and several other legislators today promoted House Bill 2479, which would direct a police officer "to attempt to verify the immigration status of suspected illegal aliens."

    However, an officer could not stop a suspected illegal immigrant without reason -- as critics of the new Arizona law have claimed, Mr. Metcalfe said. An officer would have to have a reason for checking a suspected illegal alien's papers, such as if the alien was driving too fast, ran a red light, or was arrested for a break-in.

    The bill also would create a new third-degree misdemeanor "for illegal aliens who violate federal law by either willfully failing to register as an alien or failing to possess proper proof of such registration when stopped for another primary offense, such as a traffic violation."

    The bill also would attempt to crack down on employers who hire illegal aliens without first checking to see if they had registration papers and are in the state legally. It also would create a new third-class felony "for intentionally smuggling illegal aliens (into the state) for profit" and would let police officers "impound any vehicle driven by an illegal alien or used to transport illegal aliens.''

    Critics of the bill, such as Sen. Daylin Leach, D-Montgomery, said immigration enforcement is a federal job, done by the Immigration, Customs and Enforcement agency, adding "State and local police are not charged with enforcing federal immigration legislation."

    But Mr. Metcalfe said federal authorities have done a poor job of finding and deporting illegal immigrants and the state has the right to defend itself, as Arizona is doing.

    It's difficult to know how many illegal immigrants are in Pennsylvania at any one time, but Mr. Metcalfe put the estimate at 140,000, and maintained they are costing state taxpayers at least $700 million a year in unnecessary costs. These include costs to educate the children of illegal immigrants plus costs of welfare benefits, jail cells, health care, day care and food stamps.

    A number of conservative groups support the Metcalfe bill, including the Eagle Forum, the Federal Immigration Reform and Enforcement Coalition and the Citizens for Immigration Control. An official of the last group, Kathleen Appell, said, "We wish Gov. (Ed) Rendell would 'woman up' and display Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer's courage (in signing such a law) but we know that won't happen."

    Mr. Rendell said today he hadn't read the Metcalfe bill, "but if it's the same as the Arizona law, I would veto it." He said the Arizona law has even been criticized by staunch conservatives such as former President George Bush adviser Karl Rove and former Colorado GOP Congressman Tom Tancredo.

    Some critics have claimed the Arizona law promotes "profiling" and prejudice against certain racial and ethnic groups, Hispanics in particular, but Mr. Metcalfe denied that. He said Pennsylvania has a right to protect itself against drugs, thefts, killings and other illegal activities perpetrated by immigrants who sneak into the state without legal papers.

    But Andrew Hoover of the American Civil Liberties Union said Pennsylvania shouldn't copy the Arizona law.

    "What happens in Arizona stays in Arizona," he said. "The new Arizona law encourages racial profiling and betrays American values. We don't need that here in Pennsylvania."

    Read more: http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com...#ixzz0n1OvV5GW
    I really don't fucking understand why people don't like this. It's illegal to be in this country and you can go to jail ANYWAY if you don't present a greencard if you are an Alien. You must have it on you at ALL TIMES according to immigration laws. All these laws do is just reinstate laws that already exist.
    Last edited by Buffalo Phil; 05-04-2010, 11:22 PM.
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    people are stupid, this is awesome
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    • #3
      I love it, especially people of my own family, argue with me over this by saying my Grandparents and great-grand parents immigrated to this country.

      Last time I checked they all showed up legally, worked their asses off and became American Citizens as per the rules OF THE IMMIGRATION LAWS.

      My Family didn't jump a fence or float over on a banana boat, they followed the rules and were rewarded for their hard work and sacrifices.
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      • #4
        what alex said.
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        • #5
          It is fawkin amazing what these people get away with. seriously it is out of control. working with a few of them i learned that they get away with everything. i also learned that it is easy as pie to cross the border. Also, in regards to traffic violations, if they get pulled over without a license the car gets impounded. All they have to do is pay like 150 bucks, have someone else get their car, and they are good to go. It is simply amazing how this all works. They get in less trouble for being illegal and not a citizen than we do. If we were caught without a license we would have a HUGE fine. Other stuff we would lose our license for, they would just get a slap on the wrist and a fine. Also, they can go into hospitals for anything(even somehting as simple as a cold) and get free healthcare or medicine.

          My dad told me a story the other day of a woman who has crossed the border 7 times, had a baby in a texas hospital (at no charge) and gone back over the border. 7 FUCKIN TIMES! It is out of control.

          97 TJ that I think is pretty neat.

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          • #6
            what are landscaping companies gonna do? lol
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            • #7
              PA...i think i live there?
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              and everyone qute dis because its the best grammer im going to have all year

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              • #8
                I love it. My only issue is to much govt. control.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Quartney View Post
                  what are landscaping companies gonna do? lol
                  hire white guys. orrrrrr hire LEGAL immigrants. They work very hard, but if they arent gonna pay taxes and give back to society like we all do, than fuck that. there are plenty of other legal people looking for jobs.

                  97 TJ that I think is pretty neat.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bigbike View Post
                    I love it. My only issue is to much govt. control.
                    Uhm, this is what the Government SHOULD be doing. This is something the government SHOULD have control over, not private corporations.

                    This is one of the very few instances where I wish the Government would STEP UP and fucking take care of and follow the goddamn laws they passed.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CumminsJeep View Post
                      hire white guys. orrrrrr hire LEGAL immigrants. They work very hard, but if they arent gonna pay taxes and give back to society like we all do, than fuck that. there are plenty of other legal people looking for jobs.
                      duhhhhhhhhhh

                      stop making sense andrew, just lawl at my comments, gawd.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Quartney View Post
                        what are landscaping companies gonna do? lol
                        give kids in high school jobs, like how america used to be.

                        maybe this will get kids out of their fucking houses and off the computer during the summer.

                        BRING BACK THE AMERICA OF 1957 PLZ (without the all the racism and associated negatives... lol)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Buffalo Phil View Post
                          Uhm, this is what the Government SHOULD be doing. This is something the government SHOULD have control over, not private corporations.

                          This is one of the very few instances where I wish the Government would STEP UP and fucking take care of and follow the goddamn laws they passed.
                          I could see it.
                          -Caleb

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Quartney View Post
                            duhhhhhhhhhh

                            stop making sense andrew, just lawl at my comments, gawd.
                            oh i lawled

                            97 TJ that I think is pretty neat.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by XJLI View Post

                              BRING BACK THE AMERICA OF 1957 PLZ (without the all the racism and associated negatives... lol)
                              You mean bring back personal responsibility, less government in personal lives and sweet guns laws?

                              Can't do that, Adam. That's Racist.
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