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  • #31
    Originally posted by raze1287 View Post
    Yes. The rules of engagement state that Americans will not engage unless they are fired upon first. Those Iraqis, while armed, did not clearly pose a threat to anyone. They had two Reuters employees with them. There were also unarmed men present. Shooting them from an Apache is a complete disregard to the rules of war. Then they fire upon the people trying to get them off of the street?
    there were ground forces being fired upon within the area, if you actually read the story.

    This war is different from any other war, the enemies do not wear uniforms, and do not fight in form, they are simply "unlawful enemy combatants" in civilian clothes all the time. When there are american troops on the ground, a camera can be misinterpreted for a weapon, which seems like what happened.

    As for that van, you try to help an enemy, you yourself are an enemy, there were ground forces on their way, who knows what could have been in that van.

    I do not know why people are amazed by this, this is war. It's not supposed to be pretty, innocent people die, what if it really was an RPG? there would be no questions. I have friends over there and yes i think their lives are more valuable than that of the Iraqi people.

    As for the reasons they are there in the first place, thats not in their hands. Do you think that all soldiers are war junkies wanting to kill everything they see? they are simply doing their job and not cutting corners cause "that might not be an RPG". In the end of the day they have a gun for a reason, to get their job done and get home safely.

    As for the people that leak things like this so the public can think that the heros fighting for our freedoms are some kinds of criminals, i hope they rot in hell.
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    • #32
      OH MAN OUR SOLDIERS DO NOTHING BUT BRUTALLY MURDER STARVING CHILDREN.

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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      • #33
        day late dollar short scooter
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        • #34
          I agree with the hooters guy

          97 TJ that I think is pretty neat.

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          • #35


            I feel fucking dirty posting random images that make me laugh in these threads.
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            • #36
              rambo doesnt support RJ

              BORKED

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              • #37
                Originally posted by raze1287 View Post
                1 i would not be over there EVER
                2 yes i would rather know for definite instead of killing innocent civilians (Well as innocent as shown in the vidya). If they had done a little more intel they could of seen that there was no present danger to the at that moment in time. They had troops in the area no? They do make sniper rifles with some good scopes or binoculars that can pick them up with out being in shooting range.
                Well, consider yourself lucky.

                With the mentality you described above, you would be at the recieving end of a lead projectile all too quickly.

                I have nothing else to contribute here.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by greenxj513 View Post
                  there were ground forces being fired upon within the area, if you actually read the story.

                  This war is different from any other war, the enemies do not wear uniforms, and do not fight in form, they are simply "unlawful enemy combatants" in civilian clothes all the time. When there are american troops on the ground, a camera can be misinterpreted for a weapon, which seems like what happened.

                  As for that van, you try to help an enemy, you yourself are an enemy, there were ground forces on their way, who knows what could have been in that van.

                  I do not know why people are amazed by this, this is war. It's not supposed to be pretty, innocent people die, what if it really was an RPG? there would be no questions. I have friends over there and yes i think their lives are more valuable than that of the Iraqi people.

                  As for the reasons they are there in the first place, thats not in their hands. Do you think that all soldiers are war junkies wanting to kill everything they see? they are simply doing their job and not cutting corners cause "that might not be an RPG". In the end of the day they have a gun for a reason, to get their job done and get home safely.

                  As for the people that leak things like this so the public can think that the heros fighting for our freedoms are some kinds of criminals, i hope they rot in hell.
                  YOU MEAN THE WORLD ISN'T FULL OF RAINBOWS AND UNICORNS!?

                  My mommy must have lied to me.

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                  • #39
                    i don't care if its too late, i hate stories like this that pop up on the news.

                    It's like they enjoy making good americans look bad, and give political retards liek rj fuel for their anti-american, fuck this country sentiment.

                    RJ won't be over there because he will never have the ambition to do something greater than himself, i have the utmost respect for our soldiers.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by greenxj513 View Post
                      there were ground forces being fired upon within the area, if you actually read the story.

                      This war is different from any other war, the enemies do not wear uniforms, and do not fight in form, they are simply "unlawful enemy combatants" in civilian clothes all the time. When there are american troops on the ground, a camera can be misinterpreted for a weapon, which seems like what happened.

                      As for that van, you try to help an enemy, you yourself are an enemy, there were ground forces on their way, who knows what could have been in that van.

                      Not what im arguing here

                      I do not know why people are amazed by this, this is war. It's not supposed to be pretty, innocent people die, what if it really was an RPG? there would be no questions. I have friends over there and yes i think their lives are more valuable than that of the Iraqi people.

                      As for the reasons they are there in the first place, thats not in their hands. Do you think that all soldiers are war junkies wanting to kill everything they see? they are simply doing their job and not cutting corners cause "that might not be an RPG". In the end of the day they have a gun for a reason, to get their job done and get home safely.

                      i touched the rpg subject.

                      As for the people that leak things like this so the public can think that the heros fighting for our freedoms are some kinds of criminals, i hope they rot in hell. That would be classified as freedom of speech and freedom of press. By not releasing it they are violating the constitution (spare me the elastic clause and shit here) you really are not touching on any of the subjects i did. i see a lot of opinions stated here.
                      Freedom???????!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      1996 xj, waggy 44 front 5.13 gears aussie trussed, 3 links, 3.5" coils, spooled 8.8 rear, 38" tsl sx's, tnt front bumper, jesus freaks rear bumper, Olympic top hat roof rack, bunch of dumb shit
                      2001 wj tbd
                      1974 5 ton

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                      • #41
                        This thread delivers the fucking lawls, one fucking post at a time.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Even View Post
                          Well, consider yourself lucky.

                          With the mentality you described above, you would be at the recieving end of a lead projectile all too quickly.

                          I have nothing else to contribute here.
                          Cool Bro i could really care less

                          Originally posted by greenxj513 View Post
                          i don't care if its too late, i hate stories like this that pop up on the news.

                          It's like they enjoy making good americans look bad, and give political retards liek rj fuel for their anti-american, fuck this country sentiment.

                          RJ won't be over there because he will never have the ambition to do something greater than himself, i have the utmost respect for our soldiers.
                          HAHAHAHAHAHA Im anti-american because i dont believe in a stupid war and practice my freedom of speech. I could really care less about doing something "greater" than myself. I could die tomorrow and be fucking happy. But now lets turn the table on you, are you fighting for this country? Nope didnt think so you lack ambition to do something greater than yourself.
                          1996 xj, waggy 44 front 5.13 gears aussie trussed, 3 links, 3.5" coils, spooled 8.8 rear, 38" tsl sx's, tnt front bumper, jesus freaks rear bumper, Olympic top hat roof rack, bunch of dumb shit
                          2001 wj tbd
                          1974 5 ton

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                          • #43
                            It doesn't matter what I say to you, cause you don't give a fuck, and probably never will, especially about this. I just wanna know where you get off thinking this country is so terrible.

                            I mean fuck we just gave you free healthcare.
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                            • #44

                              97 TJ that I think is pretty neat.

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