Buggy Science Experiment Help

[customcreationsllc]

The other day I worked on a 2002 explorer the posi was bad (chattered) so we replaced to whole diff because the clutches were on back order.

Anyways I kept the Diff which is an independent Aluminum housing Ford 8.8 Diff. It is a rear diff so the shafts are long because it is centered unlike a IFS diff which offsets the pinion to one side and uses short shafts.

My thought obviously was this is cool how can I use it.

Thinking Thinking Thinking

I gots an idea build a IFS honda buggy.

So this is where you come in.
The shafts are 31 spline at the Diff but only 29 spline at the outer.
Now I've searched for 29 spline unit bearings the ford explorer style use a pressed in bearing assembly not a bolt on that you are used to seeing.
Might still be an option.

However I searched 29 spline hubs Nissan come up no so keen on that.
Then 2005-2008 grand cherokee and commanders use 29 spline hubs.

So does anyone have a 2005-2008 grand Cherokee hub laying around.
So I can see if they will match up?

Also isn't the 2005 When they went to IFS? maybe I can just use their knuckles etc with longer A-arms



What do you guys think, build a miniature Campbell rig?

[Ruepart Hoaxley]

I'm liking the ideas this is bringing to you.

[customcreationsllc]

rear engine= better vision.
Vision is king in the rocks how much better is it if you can see where you are going.
IFS= no drive shaft to worry about basically plated the whole underneath.
IFS= not as good in the rocks.

Honda= light
Honda= No t-case to so no high range or diggs.
Racing= you can back up.
RCrocs= tops speed 70mph anyways.

[Zullock Holmes]

like the idea, with alot of horsepower, making an ifs set up strong enough becomes expensive, but with a honda motor and 37's chances are you're not really gonna break shit.

The more and more i see and talk about this, the more rear engine single seaters make sense, for a barrage of reasons. the dispersion of weight, visability, all of these are major advantages.

on a course where 70 mph is top speed, it goes from who can go the top speed, to who can get there the quickest. I really think thats the drive behind guys adding gobs and gobs of horsepower to their setup. They wanna take a corner, then be at 70 mph as fast as possible.

[customcreationsllc]

so anyone with a WK?

I want to at least be able to measure a few points basically I just want to know the knuckle geometry upper and lower ball joint placements compared to the hub.


I'm still thinking, I think instead of the Honda I will just use the Ecotec trans axle, I already have most of the parts and they are easier to come across these days.

All that would mean is I need to flip my diffs.
Anyone have a LP D60 kicking around they want to offload like real cheap?

I just need more time in a day.

[Customjob]

I just need more time in a day.

Dont you wish that you could just pause time to get stuff done?

[HitItWithSomeSpeed]

All that would mean is I need to flip my diffs.

?


why?

[customcreationsllc]

Honda motors spin opposite of most motors that is why they use them in rear engine honda buggies, when you flip the engine around it is now spinning in the correct well normal direction as all the common differentials.

When you flip a normal spinning engine around the drive shafts will now be spinning backwards if you flip the differentials it puts the pinion on the opposite side of the Pinion gear making the tires rotate in the opposite direction.

Did you fallow hard typing all that. Ecotec spins normal Honda spins backwards well some do, B-series.

[HitItWithSomeSpeed]

I get that, and I assume you mean that you're taking a front wheel drive engine and transaxle and turning it 90* from it's factory mounting position. My question is, rather than flip the diffs, why not just spin the motor 90* in the opposite direction. Seems like less work to me.

[customcreationsllc]

You can spin the engine around but then you get a mid engine not a rear engine.
You need the transaxle a good amount in front of the rear diff "drive shaft length" so you usually use the engine side axle shaft for the rear axle so the engine sits back further. then the transmission side goes to the front.

I'm sure it has been done before but the engine would be in the passenger seat.

Following?

Flipping diffs is not hard except oiling the pinion bearings and offroad you change angles enough to get oil everywhere. I'm not driving down the highway at an hour at a time.

there is a couple things I might change inside the diff not as good as running the correct direction but should be good enough for this kind of driving.

[HitItWithSomeSpeed]

Makes sense.