2011 Ford Mustang

[XJLI]

body is ok. 412hp is cool

agreed.

i like the styling of the 06-07 better though.

[Zullock Holmes]

Not a Ford fan, so that is yet another one that can be torched at a baby nursery.

And btw, sorry to go fact check.....But the Challenger came out in 1970, not 1969.

first challengers were released in the fall of 1969. In february of 1970 they came out with a larger selection of models, motors, colors, etc.

Finding a 69 is crazy hard, they are super rare and are some of the first challengers to ever roll off the production line, finding one with a 440 is even harder cause the production numbers in 69 were so low only because they were a brand new car.

[chucks_net]

I like it.

But I would take a camaro over it based on looks. The drive train is nice and leaves lots of room for add-ons. Ford has a solid drivetrain if you are going to max it out (over 500hp) but the Chevy I think will hold up just as nice to bolt on mods...

hopefully they fixed some of the heavy cornering feel of that body style. I drove a shelby of the same body not too long ago and it felt more confident in the corners but the body was still a shitty rattley stang...

[04WranglerX]

first challengers were released in the fall of 1969. In february of 1970 they came out with a larger selection of models, motors, colors, etc.

You sure? I think that's like saying you have a 1996 TJ.

[hippie metal]

You sure? I think that's like saying you have a 1996 TJ.

[hippie metal]

You sure? I think that's like saying you have a 1996 TJ.

[HeavyMetal]

which is it?

[Zullock Holmes]

You sure? I think that's like saying you have a 1996 TJ.

hahahaha pretty sure. Saw it on an episode of muscle car, and i really do hope they got their shit right.

Either way i would kill to own an early challenger with a 440 Hemi

[Burton58]

personal favorites from the big 3

71 hemi cuda
70 chevelle ss 454 ls6
67 mustang gt 500

[Toreadorranger]

eh its just a bored out 4.6 and the real 5.0s have push rods

Completely new motor.

Cant get the hp numbers they are looking for from a pushrod 5.0 from the factory and still have it be cost effecient and get good mileage.

Im just glad to see ford pulling their head out of their ass and building good motors. the LS motors have been shitting on them for way to long.

[Nick]

Completely new motor.

It's simply a bored-and-stroked version of the all-aluminum, overhead-cam 4.6-liter Modular V8 first built in Ford's Romeo plant in 1991 and fitted to the Mustang in 1996.

straight from the article

[Magilla]

Completely new motor.

Cant get the hp numbers they are looking for from a pushrod 5.0 from the factory and still have it be cost effecient and get good mileage.

Im just glad to see ford pulling their head out of their ass and building good motors. the LS motors have been shitting on them for way to long.

Ford began development on the new engine some two and a half years ago, and it's simply a bored-and-stroked version of the all-aluminum, overhead-cam 4.6-liter Modular V8 first built in Ford's Romeo plant in 1991 and fitted to the Mustang in 1996.

alum. instead big change

[XJtheXtremeJeep]

You sure? I think that's like saying you have a 1996 TJ.

Some are technically built in 1996 i think thats why people feel special if they have one made in the end of 1996.... as for the challenger it probably is the same they were probably built in 1969 but marketed as a 1970

[Burton58]

all cars come out in fall badged as the following model year

[Toreadorranger]

alum. instead big change

after some more reading the only thing it shares with the 4.6 is a similar block. Everything else is different. forged internals, new heads, Variable cam timing, different firing order.