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[Magilla]

mmmmmhhhhmmmm nice observation rj.

im sober

[Lawn Guyland]

done with the birthday celebrations?

[JoeNitro]

wouldn't hate hate become a double negative?

NO. let me try again.

I hate people who dislike hatred.

if your gonna question it then ask NOFX its a line from one of there songs

[Magilla]

done with the birthday celebrations?

actually i had a nice relaxing evening only had a few drinks and was in bed around 3am

[JoeNitro]

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[Magilla]

i know what it is ive been listening to nofx a lot longer than you seen them live quite a few times over the years before they were even big

there is still the fact you did it wrong

[Burton58]

NO. let me try again.

I hate people who dislike hatred.

if your gonna question it then ask NOFX its a line from one of there songs

you just said you like hatred again

[Magilla]

you could say i like like haters

[JoeNitro]

you just said you like hatred again

how do you figure? please explain...

[Burton58]

NO. let me try again.

I hate people who dislike hatred.

if your gonna question it then ask NOFX its a line from one of there songs

ughhhhhh..... if someone dislikes hatred, they like being nice. if you hate those people, then you dislike the nice people and like hatred. 1st grade over, nap time everyone

[Lawn Guyland]

[JoeNitro]

i hate hate haters.

if you - RJ - came up to me and said "i dislike the idea of hate". that means you dont like hate. so for me to say "i dont like you", because you hate hatred, would be saying I hate hate haters.

[Magilla]

A double negative occurs when two forms of negation are used in the same clause. In some languages (or varieties of a language), negative forms are consistently used throughout the sentence to express a single negation. In other languages, a double negative is used to negate a negation, and therefore, it resolves to a positive. In the former case, triple and quadruple negation can also be seen, which leads to the terms multiple negation or negative concord.

Double negatives are generally not used in written varieties of Standard English. Consider the phrase "I do not want nothing!". The intended meaning would be expressed as "I do not want anything!" in Standard English, according to prescriptive rules. However, if there is very heavy stress on "do not" or a specific plaintive stress on "nothing," Standard English can use the form "I do not want nothing" as a way of emphasizing that the speaker would rather have "something" than "nothing" at all.
Although they are not used in Standard English, double negatives are used in various dialects of English, including Southern American English, African American Vernacular English, and most British regional dialects, most notably the East London (Cockney) and East Anglian dialects. This is similar to negative concord found in other languages, as described later in this article. Often double negatives are considered incorrect grammatical usages; however, dialects which use double negatives do so consistently and follow a different set of descriptive linguistic rules.
In the film Mary Poppins, Dick Van Dyke uses a double negative when he says:
If you don't want to go nowhere
A double negative is also famously used in the first two lines of the song "Another Brick in the Wall (part II)" included in the album The Wall by Pink Floyd, sung by schoolchildren
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control

Previously acceptable use
Today, the double negative is often considered the mark of an uneducated speaker, but it used to be quite common in English, even in literature. Chaucer made extensive use of double negatives in his poetry, sometimes even using triple negatives. For example, he described the Friar in The Canterbury Tales: "Ther nas no man no wher so vertuous" (i.e., "There was not no man nowhere so virtuous"), and he even used a fourfold negative when describing the Knight: "He nevere yet no vileynye ne sayde / In all his lyf unto no maner wight." (i.e., "He never yet no vileness not said / In all his life to no sort of man.")
A classic example of a double negative used by a well-educated man in the 1600s was Oliver Cromwell's letter, dated July 5, 1644, to his brother-in-law, Valentine Walton, informing him of the death of Walton's son at the battle of Marston Moor, quoting the boy's last words:
A little after, he said one thing lay upon his spirit. I asked him what it was. He told me it was that God had not suffered him to be no more the executioner of His enemies.[2]
This particular letter of Cromwell's has often been reprinted, but with the "not ... no" double negative amended to read "not ... any".[citation needed]
In more recent times, more publicised examples of double negatives appear in EastEnders, particularly with the character Dot Branning, who sometimes uses triple negatives as well (e.g. 'I ain't never heard of no licence'). However, this is an example of dialect usage, specifically cockney or estuary English.

Double negative resolving to a positive
In Standard English, double negatives are usually understood to resolve to a positive.
The double-negatives-make-a-positive rule was first introduced in English when Bishop Robert Lowth wrote A Short Introduction to English Grammar with Critical Notes in 1762.[3]
There isn't a day when I don't think about her. – Prince William, speaking of his mother.
(This is not double negative, since the two negatives are in different clauses. A true double negative would be "there isn't no day when..." The sentence as spoken could only be changed by removing one of the negatives to either "There isn't a day when I think about her" or "There is a day when I don't think about her" neither of which has the intended meaning.)
Litotes is a rhetorical device that uses double negation to emphasise a statement. Distinguishing litotes from simple double negative often requires context. For instance, "I do not disagree" could be said to mean, "I certainly agree" if stated in an affirmative manner; this is an example of litotes. However, if stated in a cautious manner, "I do not disagree" can also be used to mean, "You may be right, although I am not sure," or "There is no mistake in what you say, but there is more to it than that."
Similarly, the phrase "Mr. Jones was not incompetent" may be used to mean either "Mr. Jones was very competent" or "Mr. Jones was competent, but not brilliantly so."
A well-known tale involves an English professor giving a lecture on linguistics, in which he gives examples from various languages of double negatives forming positives. He concludes "However, there is no case where a double positive forms a negative", to which a student in the back row responds "Yeah, right".[4]

[Burton58]

to change the subject what do you guys think of nofx's newest album coaster?

[Magilla]

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