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    So I know I got into an arguement with someone on here about this I had my point and they had there point, but of course, both of us are never wrong

    Then I found an even better explanation.


    Quoted from the guys that owns Expeditions West

    "Less rotating mass- Easier to start and stop
    Less reciprocating mass- Easier to dampen
    Less wind resistance- Better economy and range
    Less rolling resistance- Better economy and range
    Easier to fit a taller/narrower tire with less lift
    Lighter spare
    Lighter tire
    Lighter wheel
    Less unsprung weight
    Less weight and leverage on steering components, bearings, etc.

    In terrain:
    1. Less frontal resistance in mud and sand. Where is most of the increased contact patch (for flotation) gained? In the length, not the width. Tall and narrow allows for more length and greater deformation with less resistance.

    It is as simple as understanding the coefficient of friction (COF), which is (Ff = Cf x Fv).

    Ff= Friction Force
    Cf= Coefficient of Friction
    Fv= Force Vertical

    As you make a tire wider, you reduce the Fv over a larger area, but gain Cf. As you make a tire narrower, you increase the Fv, but reduce the area of contact, which lowers the Cf. It is proportional, though there are times when the material interaction (lets say a drag tire on concrete) favors Cf, but those conditions rarely exist on the trail, on a perfectly flat surface. So, if a wide and narrow tires benefits with relationship to Cf and Fv are proportional, than the decision must be made on other factors, like weight, resistance, etc., as listed above.

    Now of course, there are limits at both ends of the spectrum. Too narrow of a tire, and the torque applied to the surface, even with extremely high Fv (which a super narrow tire would have), would exceed the rubbers ability to resist tearing. Literally, burning rubber.

    It is all a balance, with tires for most of the trucks we drive being ideal in the 9-11" wide range.

    Big, fat tires are only for show trucks and tundra buggies."
    You better decide if you are hanging on the cross, or banging in the nails

  • #2
    I like my 12.50 wide tires.
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    • #3
      "Less rotating mass- Easier to start and stop
      Less reciprocating mass- Easier to dampen
      Less wind resistance- Better economy and range
      Less rolling resistance- Better economy and range
      Easier to fit a taller/narrower tire with less lift
      Lighter spare
      Lighter tire
      Lighter wheel
      Less unsprung weight
      Less weight and leverage on steering components, bearings, etc.
      if your worried about this shit go buy a civic with carbon fiber everything.

      offroad solution to all these problems: v8, 1tons, and a sawzall

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      • #4
        lots of 'on paper' bullshit if you ask me.

        from someone who ran pizza cutters, and liked them, tall and thin was never the end all, and i can count 100 times where it could have gone either way with either of my tire setups
        - Will


        Originally posted by fizzy
        or am asians pants not a read end lol.
        Originally posted by DizzDizz
        aliens probed my husband

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        • #5
          such an angry bunch you people are
          You better decide if you are hanging on the cross, or banging in the nails

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Saharicon View Post
            "Less rotating mass- Easier to start and stop
            Less reciprocating mass- Easier to dampen
            Less wind resistance- Better economy and range
            Less rolling resistance- Better economy and range
            Easier to fit a taller/narrower tire with less lift
            Lighter spare
            Lighter tire
            Lighter wheel
            Less unsprung weight
            Less weight and leverage on steering components, bearings, etc.

            ."
            sounds like cb3

            most of those are common sense

            but build the vehicle right and none are an issue.

            as for the offroad performance aspect of it. i prefer something wider than 9-11"

            and a 37x10" will look funnay and probably be dangerous on the street. more tire to fold over

            but a narrow tire can excel in some areas as a wider tire will excel in others
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            • #7
              I was simply busting balls, you guys have got so fosiddies while i was gone.
              You better decide if you are hanging on the cross, or banging in the nails

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Saharicon View Post
                I was simply busting balls, you guys have got so fosiddies while i was gone.
                im just debating
                www.eatsleepexp.wordpress.com

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                • #9
                  Sam I actually found a cool site I wanted to show you, ill see if I can look it up real quick
                  You better decide if you are hanging on the cross, or banging in the nails

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                  • #10
                    I would like to agree with the pro's of running skinnie's but i haven't actually done so yet, so i can't really comment. my 12.50's have serves well.

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                    • #11
                      http://www.transamtrail.com/ there we go, moto across the US on mainly offroad
                      You better decide if you are hanging on the cross, or banging in the nails

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                      • #12
                        I like my 12.50s....But obviously both have good arguements.....However, I would say when offroading, and aired down, I would rather have a wider contact patch. But that's just my oppinion

                        97 TJ that I think is pretty neat.

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                        • #13
                          pizza cuttah tiyaz
                          I once had a 93 XJ, 4.5" o' lift, 33" TSL Super Swampers, 8.25 rear Detroit locked. 2,000 Lb Steering. Custom rockers, Sam's old Bumpah. Cherry Bomb BITCH. SOLD

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Saharicon View Post
                            http://www.transamtrail.com/ there we go, moto across the US on mainly offroad
                            that is badass

                            i would love to do something like that.
                            www.eatsleepexp.wordpress.com

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mighty Quine View Post
                              pizza cuttah tiyaz
                              too bad i don't normally wheel on pizza
                              www.eatsleepexp.wordpress.com

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