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[HeavyMetal]

That is up for discussion. The most powerful military does not make us the best country in the world. It makes us the most feared.

Australia, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, The Netherlands and New Zealand kill us is quality of life and countless other categories.

care to list their population?

i bet if CT was a country we would be pretty sweet too in quality of life

all of those countries combined dont even equal half the size of the US.

maybe not even 1/3

[92xjlaredo]

I'm just going to leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__uutzcQXc


This isn't the best country in the world. If you agree and think that secession is the answer, grow the fuck up. Grow a set of nuts, educate yourself on the real issues at hand (non-bias) and act accordingly.


People need to get their heads out of their asses, stop smoking crack and understand why this country is going down the tubes.

The political parties and lobiest are keeping people from doing whats right in the government. Pride of party keeps that is right from being done and lobiest are just a full blown bribe that is legal because the people receiving them say so.

"However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." George Washington

Political parties need to step aside and make shit right. Washington wasn't the only leader who believed that political parties would destroy our nation. Eisenhower, John Adams, William Penn and a bunch more.



RANT OFF!

i wish there was a way i could like this a million zillion times. the dabble back and forth really doesnt mean much other than conversation (which from time to time its quite refreshing) however...this is the point that i wholeheartedly agree upon. FO

[Nick]

care to list their population?

i bet if CT was a country we would be pretty sweet too in quality of life

all of those countries combined dont even equal half the size of the US.

maybe not even 1/3

315m to around 66m for the six combined

[Dizzaster]

care to list their population?

i bet if CT was a country we would be pretty sweet too in quality of life

Why does population matter? It does, but I want to see why you think so.

CT does well accordingly. Even with its crumbling economy.

[Nick]

Lets compare the US with similarly sized countries, shall we?

Country Population Quality of Life Rank
China ------ 1,354m -------- 60th
India --------1,210m-----------73rd
United States-----315m--------- 13th
Indonesia --------237m-------- 71st
Brazil -------------197m -------- 39th
Pakistan----------181m--------- 93rd

[Dizzaster]

Lets compare the US with similarly sized countries, shall we?

Country Population Quality of Life Rank
China 1,354m 60th
India 1,210m 73rd
United States 315m 13th
Indonesia 237m 71st
Brazil 197m 39th
Pakistan 181m 93rd

Irreverent, but I still want to hear why you think why population is so important.

So we are doing pretty good for a big country. I see a 1 next to the US for quality of life, but too bad it is followed with a 3...

I am poking you silly fucks for educated answers here. Trying to make you think.

[HeavyMetal]

Why does population matter? It does, but I want to see why you think so.

CT does well accordingly. Even with its crumbling economy.

quantity over quality comes to mind

with more quantity, it is harder to maintain quality, that applies to everything under the sun.

the fact the US can even score well at all with the vast quantity we have, speaks volumes when speaking on relative terms

edit: the list nick posted illustrates that well

[Nick]

Irreverent, but I still want to hear why you think why population is so important.

So we are doing pretty good for a big country. I see a 1 next to the US for quality of life, but too bad it is followed with a 3...

I am poking you silly fucks for educated answers here. Trying to make you think.

Why was that irreverent? I disrespected you with numbers?

[92xjlaredo]

Why was that irreverent? I disrespected you with numbers?

maybe you did, now give him something to look at, set it proportionally against land size and create a ratio of each country and see where they rank


fuck im supposed to be doing homework...stop being so intriguing forum.........

[Dizzaster]

quantity over quality comes to mind

with more quantity, it is harder to maintain quality, that applies to everything under the sun.

the fact the US can even score well at all with the vast quantity we have, speaks volumes when speaking on relative terms

edit: the list nick posted illustrates that well

Ok, so it was stated that the US is the best country in the world. And you state that the US is doing great based on the size. I can't argue that. (redneck voice on) The size of the county is no excuse for coming in 13th place when we are "the best country in the world". (redneck voice off)

Why was that irreverent? I disrespected you with numbers?

You didn't disrespect me with anything. You proved a point. A point that we are no longer the best. The US is the best in a couple things but is far from being at the top of the charts as it once was.

Now that I got your little Gentile brains moving, I am going to go home and study absorption costing and financial accounting of the big 3 automakers and how they lead themselves into bankruptcy. MERICA

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E[/ame]

[Nick]

You didn't disrespect me with anything. You proved a point. A point that we are no longer the best. The US is the best in a couple things but is far from being at the top of the charts as it once was.

Now that I got your little Gentile brains moving, I am going to go home and study absorption costing and financial accounting of the big 3 automakers and how they lead themselves into bankruptcy. MERICA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E

Irreverent means disrespect, hence the question.

If you define "best" as a ranking in an index, then I guess you're right, the United States isn't the "best" place to live. By that token, it was never at the top of the charts, so I guess it was never the "best." In 1990, if I asked you where would you rather live: Iceland/Norway/Canada/Japan or the United States, which one would you choose? If you pick anything other than the U.S. you might as well leave the country today, because it will never be at the "top of the charts" or the "best" in your eyes based on the past 20 years of the UN Human Development Index

[Dizzaster]

Irreverent means disrespect, hence the question.

If you define "best" as a ranking in an index, then I guess you're right, the United States isn't the "best" place to live. By that token, it was never at the top of the charts, so I guess it was never the "best." In 1990, if I asked you where would you rather live: Iceland/Norway/Canada/Japan or the United States, which one would you choose? If you pick anything other than the U.S. you might as well leave the country today, because it will never be at the "top of the charts" or the "best" in your eyes based on the past 20 years of the UN Human Development Index

Sorry, typo. Irrelevant*. haha

In 1990 I was 4, so I would have no idea WTF you are talking about. When it comes to the US being the best, the 50's and 60's would be where it truly shined. Technology, education and the economy were growing like no other.

I am just playing devils advocate here. I love where I live and what I do in life. Sure there are probably other places that might be better. But everything that makes me who I am is here. The US is an incredible place, but the government and the people have a lot of work to do. Every country is going to have its ups and downs and is always going to be a work in progress.

This is kinda off topic but when it comes to finding the happiest people on earth. It isn't going to be the US, Sweden or any of the other countries talked about in this thread. You will find the happiest people on earth in the plains of Africa in 3rd world countries. By no means are these the best countries in the world. Hell they are rated the worst, but where does that put all of these rankings we are looking at. I say put all the rankings in the trash.

Do your part if you feel you can make a difference in our country or our world.
The start of this thread talks about secession, is that the answer to our problems? No, far from it. But it might open some peoples eyes.

I fire people up because it gets them to show their true passion and pride for this country. If people used that for the right reasons, we might not be in the economic place we are today.


Lets hug it out William. I will buy you some nuggets next time I see you.

[Nick]

Sorry, typo. Irrelevant*. haha

In 1990 I was 4, so I would have no idea WTF you are talking about. When it comes to the US being the best, the 50's and 60's would be where it truly shined. Technology, education and the economy were growing like no other.

Since 1990, those 4 countries have held the top spot in the UN's Human Development Index. So over the past 20 years, have they really represented the best countries in the world? Even at the time, would you have chosen them over the United States?

Also, how can a period marked by intense domestic discord over things like Civil Rights and poverty be better than the US of today? Sure the economic growth rates may have been higher during the period, but the economy was much smaller. Its easier to move the needle on a smaller basis. In 1950 the US GDP was around $300b, today its nearly $15t. There are actually less people living in poverty today (% wise) than in 1959.

[Dizzaster]

Since 1990, those 4 countries have held the top spot in the UN's Human Development Index. So over the past 20 years, have they really represented the best countries in the world? Even at the time, would you have chosen them over the United States?

Also, how can a period marked by intense domestic discord over things like Civil Rights and poverty be better than the US of today? Sure the economic growth rates may have been higher during the period, but the economy was much smaller. Its easier to move the needle on a smaller basis. In 1950 the US GDP was around $300b, today its nearly $15t. There are actually less people living in poverty today (% wise) than in 1959.

Back around the 90's those countries were all thriving and the US was right besides them. But the charts don't really show importunity within a country. That can always be an argument for the US. Because of size it has so much diversity in jobs and growth depending on area.

The argument is the best country in the world at a specific time. Back then(50-60's) the majority of the world was in shambles. So the US was technically the best in the world. I know it is relative but you are comparing to the other countries and that is the way it was then. We might be better off today and in many cases, a lot better off. But people bitch a lot more today while back then, people did something about it. Remember the saying "stop bitching, start a revolution"?