Muscle. Pick your poison...

[Buffalo Phil]

Everyone be hatin on automatics...I say fuck'em. THREE ON THE TREE ALL DAY, BABY, WHAT?? I'M IN THIRD GEAR BY 30 MILES PER HOUR AND IT'S JUST A ONE WAY SHOT FROM THERE TO 50. WOO WOOOO.

[Ruepart Hoaxley]

Dear Phil: You scare me sometimes.

[Carlleen]

Phil. Why so serious.

[Burton58]

btw just something to consider, $28.5 for my roomates car. 11k miles, california special grill, lower valance and rear spoiler. has sync, ambient lighting, leather and i think every option besides the glass roof. magnaflow exhaust is the only drivetrain mod and it sounds mean as fuck

[Buffalo Phil]

Dear Phil: You scare me sometimes.

[Zullock Holmes]

If you can't tell the difference in feel between a Challenger, M3 and Mustang, you have no place in this conversation. Challenger has 500lbs on the mustang, thats a large amount of weight to throw around. Totally changes the way the car drives and feels on the street.

I would go with the stang based on the fact that it has the best all around package as far as looks, driving dynamics and price go. I would spring for a used SRT8 if you went with either of the dodges.

Have you driven them, or are you just saying so because you know how much they weigh???

The charger is a yacht. The challenger, IS NOT. drive one and then come talk to me.

[Buffalo Phil]

How is the Challenger NOT a land yacht again?

[Zullock Holmes]

you drive one phil??? yes or no. simple question, simple answer.

[Buffalo Phil]

No I haven't but I seriously want to know how you think it isn't one, given the sheer mass of the vehicle. I was under the impression that the Challenger was the largest vehicle of the three Will listed, correct me if I'm wrong.

EDIT: Wow, okay, nevermind, the fucking Dodge Charger weighs more that the Challenger by just a little more.

[Zullock Holmes]

charger is wayy bigger...... my mom's charger rides and drives like a cadillac, that car is huge.


See. simple, everyone can say what a big car, it must handle like crap. test drives are free. Bullshit.

[Buffalo Phil]

When did I ever say the Challenger handled like crap? I was making a comment on the size of the vehicles here. Visual inspection verifies a large vehicle, don't need to fucking drive one to figure that out.

[Toreadorranger]

Have you driven them, or are you just saying so because you know how much they weigh???

The charger is a yacht. The challenger, IS NOT. drive one and then come talk to me.

I've driven multiple versions of each car. The weight is very apparent. The charger is worse but realisticly it has an extra 2 doors and is even heavier so it would make sense that it would be even worse.

I'm not saying the challenger handles like old school muscle, but if you can't tell the difference between it and a mustang or m3, ill say it again. You gave no place commenting on this topic.

[Jeepbonehead]

I'd entertain the idea of a used CTS-V with your price range. Luxury and LS power.

To answer the question, Mustang is prob. best choice given the options. I refuse to vote Ford though.

voted mustang, but would vote cts-v anyday. Drove a friends and it's a monster