How to fix yo deathwobble

[Ktmracer419]

Curing death wobble is definetly a reality. Death wobble isn’t similar to a wobble from an unbalanced tire. It is by far worse. When death wobble hits you will know… it’s a violent shake form the front end that feels like the Jeep is about to fall apart. Usually when it happens the only thing you can do to stop it is slow down. The first steps to eliminate death wobble should be a visual inspection of each component, check the bushings, tire balance and an alignment. There are some common things you must check anytime you lift your Jeep. Death wobble is experienced mostly on lifter Jeeps, however it is not uncommon for someone without a lift to experience the dreaded DW. Listed below are a few things you can check.

Torque specs:

Item ........................................ Ft. lbs. ................... Nm

Lug nuts (1/2 X 20 w/ 60* cone) .... 85-115 .............. 115-150
All tie rod ends ............................ 55 ..................... 74
Steering (both ends) .................... 55 ..................... 74
Shock absorber upper nut .............. 16 ..................... 22
Shock absorber lower nuts ............. 17 ..................... 23
UCA frame end ............................. 66 ..................... 89
UCA axle end ............................... 55 ...................... 74
LCA frame end ............................. 85 ...................... 115
LCA axle end ............................... 85 ...................... 115
Track bar frame end ..................... 60 ...................... 81
Track bar axle end ....................... 40 ....................... 54
Track bar bracket bolts ................. 92 ....................... 125
Track bar bracket nut ................... 74 ....................... 100
Track bar bracket support bolts ...... 31 ....................... 42
Hub bolts (3) ............................... 75 ....................... 102
Hub- axle bolt .............................. 175 ..................... 237

Alingment specs (stock):

Angle ............. Preferred ........... Range ............. Max R/L diff.

Caster ............ +7.0* ........ +5.25* to +8.5* ......... 1.25*
Camber ........... -0.25* ....... -0.75* to +0.5 ........... 1.0*
Total Toe-in .... +0.25* ....... 0* to +0.45* ............. .05*
Thrust angle .... 0* to ± 0.15*



Check your Track Bar, play in this can cause the axle to shake.
1. Bushings - check to see that they are not worn. Looks for cracks, and excessive play)
2. Angles - this angle should be the same as your draglink. Use an angle finders you can get at sears to determine this, don’t just eye-ball it.
3. Bolts – Make sure all bolts are tightened down to spec (some lift components have a different torque spec then)

Check the Axle, your mounts may be worn
1. Check the axle mount. Here is a good write up on a wallowed out bolt hole
http://www.jeepin.com/features/trackbarfix/index.asp
2. On the trackbar frame end if you still use the conventional Tie Rod End or (TRE) make sure that there is no play in this, as play can cause DW.


Check your Tires
1. Out of balance tires can cause shaking in the front end, which can lead to death wobble.
2. Make sure all of your lug nuts are tight, (Sounds elementary but it happens to the best of us)

Check your Frame
1. Small cracks in the frame can cause the steering box to feel loose, Shaking from DW can only make this worse. 33’s and larger should have some form of Steering box brace, or frame brace in.
2. If you have upgraded your trackbar frame mount, make sure it is torqued to spec. If it routinely comes loose (as it can seeing the amount of stress in this area) it isnt a bad idea to stitch weld it in a couple places to prevent it from loosening.
3. A busted trackbar Frame Mount can cause play in the front end causing DW (Keep a watchful eye on the welds as welds in sheer can break over time.

Make sure you have a good alignment
1. After you get an alignment done, have them print out the numbers for you. A lifted XJ should have 5* to 7* positive caster angle. The factory service manual says pinion angle is higher prioroty than caster angle. but those are stock cherokee's and the caster will be fine if the pinion angle is. We are dealing with lifted cherokee's and caster is a safety concern, while pinion angle is a vibration concern. I take safety and driveability over comfort, but it's your call.
2. Make you sure you go to a place that will adjust the caster if necessary (either by shims in the frame side of the LCAs, or adjustable LCAs).

The more adjustable parts the easier it is to tune in your suspension.
1. Adjustable Track Bar
2. Adjustable Upper and Lower Control Arms (upper ones above 4” of lift). Not only are they adjustable, but they are stronger.


Things to remember:
1. A Steering Stabilizer only covers up deathwobble. It will help lessen the effects of it and in some cases eliminate it, but is not a cure, if you have deathwobble something is funky in your front end.

Entire list of everything that can cause death wobble:
-Front tires out of balance
-Front alignment out of spec
-Loose track bar bolt
-Worn track bar bushings/joints
-Need adjustable track bar
-Bad bushings/joints in control arms
-Worn/damaged tie rod end
-Bad ball joint
-Loose trackbar frame mount
-Steering box looseness
-Bad front hub assembly

[Bigbike]

Wow I thought I read that the hub bolts where 175 and I snapped two of them.

[88xjchief]

[vinnycams]

thanks for info, I definitely have it. It,s a lot better with new tires I put on ,but I still have it. Time for part inspection..

[XJLI]

you dont have it. i'll loosen the trackbar on my jeep then you can drive it and youll see what deathwobble really is

[jeep00xj]

dw sucks. i had it on my 99xj after i got about 40mph. first time i got it i thought my jeep was about to crumble. never was able to track down the main cause of it due to an accident

[gobigorgohome]

Just wondering, Would dirt/pebbles inside of the tires cause this? i get bad shimmys when im slowing down right around 40. If i hit a bump during the shimmy, it turns to d.w

[Ktmracer419]

if your tires are out of balance, they will get your front end in a funk and deathwobble will begin. the out of balance doesnt cause it, just shows it. something in your front end isnt right.

[Ktmracer419]

wow i dont remember where i got this. but its definately a copy paste job and i definately dont agree with all of it

[Ktmracer419]

yea. im changin this shit around. thar be bad info in it.

[gobigorgohome]

im getting my new tires done on sat. getting mounted and balanced, if it doesn't go away ill start looking more into it.